After months of being hounded online by a small group of hard-line Zionists, I decided yesterday to dedicate a Quenelle gesture to my abusers, one of whom wrote a letter of complaint to EdFringe in a failed attempt to have my show banned. My tweet provoked a flutter of reaction and a request from Breitbart editor-in-chief @RaheemKassam for my email address :
Dear Ms. Chabloz,
I am writing an article after my attention was drawn to your picture making the Quenelle gesture in Edinburgh this weekend. I wondered if you would mind answering a few simple questions on the matter:
1) Why were you giving the Quenelle sign? Do you disagree that it is an anti-Semitic gesture, similar to a Nazi salute?
2) Who was it aimed at, and what point were you trying to make?
3) I have noticed there are some blogs and Twitter accounts that claim you have “denied” the Holocaust? Is that a fair claim, or is it something different? Do you accept the consensus, that 6 million Jews died at the hands of Adolf Hitler and the Germany Nazi Party?
My reply :
I’m up here in Edinburgh to perform my solo acoustic one-woman show Autumn’s Here. Before accepting and signing up for a month-long run of performances, I had felt obliged to inform the organisers about an online smear-campaign against me which began over a year ago.
This smear campaign includes letters to my employer as well as a host of abusive blog posts and online bullying – behaviour better suited to a primary school playground than to a platform for debate such as Twitter.
Thanks to my transparency regards this situation I was told by one of the festival organisers last week that ‘a member of the public’ had written a letter of complaint to EdFringe in an attempt to get my music show banned. They failed. Miserably. I wrote two mercilessly mocking blog posts about my abusers (here and here). They replied with several more anonymous, exceedingly nasty blogs which have been reported to police.
Ironically, last January following the attack on Charlie Hebdo, this same group of people were avidly waving Je suis Charlie banners and crying out for free speech. However, it would seem that they’re only in favour of free speech when it’s speech they agree with.
As clearly stated in my Quenelle tweet, the gesture is aimed at this group of people: Internet trolls who hide behind a mask of anonymity in order to smear and bully. For the moment, there have been no live protests at the venue I’m playing. It seems my abusers prefer to air their grievances from the cosy comfort of their armchairs. My Quenelle is a massive “Up yours!” aimed at these living examples of double standards and outright idiocy.
One of the main ringleaders in this campaign of abuse against me is Ambrosine Shitrit from London. With over 40 accounts suspended on Twitter for targeted abuse, Shitrit has dedicated her life to complaining about what she perceives to be ‘antisemitism’, targeting individuals and organisations she despises.
There’s little doubt in my mind that Shitrit is the concerned ‘member of the public’ who thought it a bright idea to complain about me to EdFringe. See here and here.
Coming back to the Quenelle gesture itself, Roger Cukierman, president of the French Jewish Council, CRIF, considers the Quenelle to be an anti-establishment gesture unless it is performed outside a place of worship or memorial to Holocaust victims.
Others – including Shitrit – consider the Quenelle to be antisemitic under any circumstance: a hashtag search on Breitbart reveals that the editorial angle veers towards labelling the Quenelle as “Neo-Nazi”. My Grandfather, Stanley Tyrer – a soldier in the British Army – was killed by Hitler’s Luftwaffe at the age of 23 in 1940. ( Irate at not succeeding in getting my EdFringe show banned, my abusers have again turned their attention to Stanley. Recently, one associate of Shitrit – Andrea Silva Goncalves from Tower Hamlets – publicly stated that Stanley had been sent to a prison camp for deserters. Not content with smearing just me with outright lies, my abusers are now targeting my dead grandfather… )
France’s most successful comic, Dieudonné, has made the Quenelle gesture his trademark. He even has an Internet TV channel named Quenel+. The restrictive Gayssot-Fabius law in France which effectively outlaws freedom of expression makes it easy for pro-Zionist press outlets to use terms such as “convicted antisemite” with regard to Dieudonné. The UK has no such law and hopefully never will.
‘Holocaust denial’ is another term which is being bandied about a lot these days. Those who point the finger are basically screeching “Witch!”. Nobody denies that the Jews and other groups suffered horrendous atrocities at the hands of the Nazis nor that millions died in camps. It is the method of murder which is under question and if people dug a little deeper into the issue they may discover some interesting facts regards the presumed existence of homicidal Nazi gas chambers.
Indeed, the French Gayssot-Fabius law only came into existence when Professor Robert Faurisson (whose mother, by the way, was a Scot) published his findings on the lack of any physical proof regards homicidal Nazi gas chambers. Faurisson has suffered no less than ten physical assaults by thugs associated with the LDJ (League des Juifs – French equivalent of the JDL, Jewish Defence League) and, like Dieudonné and others, has been punished financially in the French courts for expressing views based on in-depth intellectual and scientific research.
“Did six million really die?” Ernst Zündel published a pamphlet posing the question in 1974 and after two high-profile trials in 1985 and 1988 was eventually sent to solitary confinement for two years in a Canadian jail. Zündel was then extradited to Germany where in 2007 he was finally convicted and jailed for another five years. Like Faurisson, Zündel suffered physical attacks as well as having his home destroyed by a pipe-bomb.
I don’t know the answer to Zündel’s question. With an establishment corrupt to the core and police obfuscation regarding high-profile child abusers ( the Labour peer and former chairman of the Board of Deputies of British Jews, Lord Janner, springs to mind ) – is it surprising that so many people are now starting to question official versions of history?
Sadly, as we have seen during another recent smear campaign of Jeremy Corbyn, eloquent debate seems out of the question. Accusations of antisemitism and Holocaust denial are hurled in the direction of anyone associated with the Palestinian plight and those calling for an end to the illegal occupation of Gaza and the West Bank by Zionists. I like many others hope Corbyn becomes Labour leader and that after so many years we will start to see some real opposition in the House of Commons.
As for the trolls and their tiresome quest of hatred against those who do not share the same opinions, they continue to create new sockpuppet accounts on Twitter in order to implement tried-and-tested tactics of ‘Block and Smear’. No doubt, in the traditional Breibart modus operandum, Raheem Kassam will run a hatchet job which my abusers will tweet to kingdom come. That’s why I decided to blog first. We see conflation of antisemitism and anti-Zionism all too often in the mainstream press. It needs to stop.
At the same time I’m tempted to offer my heartfelt thanks to Breibart, Kassam and the desperate souls who wish to see me clamped in irons and sent to solitary simply for expressing an opinion. As the old saying goes : all publicity is good, and it’s time more people started standing up to Zionist bullies.
Alison Chabloz is performing her one-woman acoustic music show Autumn’s Here at Fingers Piano Bar, Edinburgh every night (except Mondays) at 7.45pm until August 30.
I have nothing to really say – I just want to express my support for your courage in standing up to abusers like that.
Yes – me too! Don’t ever back down to people like that. You’ve got to admire Alison!
I support you totally, but I also urge you to study historical revisionism. For instance, it is incorrect that millions of jews died in Hitler’s camps. The International Red Cross reported the total deaths, jewish and non-Jewish, to be 270,301. These deaths were due to starvation and disease which actually resulted from Allied bombing of the railroads, not German atrocities. Also, no serious historian should refer to Germany as “Nazis,” that is a jewish-created epithet which was never used by Germans, and it is unfit to use in serious discourse. The Germans were fighting the greatest criminals of all time, the jewish Bolsheviks, who mercilessly slaughtered about 100 million Russian and Eastern European Christians. The gas chamber stories are a tall tale, based only on “eyewitness” accounts from the Nuremberg show trial. I am an American, and I have swallowed the bitter pill that the mainstream WW II narrative is a preposterous fable and a cover-up of the greatest crime in world history, and I am better for it. I admit our grandfathers were only footsoldiers of the Rothschild cabal. So I just wanted to gently suggest to you that you take another look at what we all once thought we knew.
But regardless of whether you agree with these things, I still support you 100%. I have had the jews on my ass for the last four years, they attacked me heavily for saying that Israel was behind 9/11 and the totally fraudulent and downright demonic “War on Terror.” I am a jazz musician in Austin, Texas. I was able to use the hate campaign against me as a springboard to higher levels within the global truth community. I play jazz with Gilad Atzmon (a personal friend), I report for Iran Press TV, I co-edit The Ugly Truth blog, I do lots of interviews and podcasts, and am very active on social media like you. Anyway good luck and much love to you, sister.
As a Canadian, I’m sorry to say that I never heard of you until I read article on Jewish Chronicle accusing you of anti-Semitism – an interesting label by people who themselves don’t belong to Semite (Hebrew) Tribes. I admire your courage to take a stand against Israel’s propaganda goons.
My comment is about Ernest Zundel, who was sued by a Polish-born wealthy Jewish woman Sabina Citron, founder of Canadian Holocaust Remembrance Association (she currently lives in Israel) for spreading hatred against Jews in a booklet, titled, Did Six Million Really Die?.
In fact Mr. Zundel was first sued by the woman for publishing a 4-page pamphlet, titled, The West, War, and Islam – in which Zundel warned the Muslim world of Zionist Jewish agenda against Islam and Muslims. However, the court dismissed the case.
Great music! Like you said, any publicity is good publicity- it brought me to your page, although I’m sympathetic to your PoV anyway.
Bravo to you for having the courage and honesty to stand up for real free speech, not just the kind that is sanctioned in private by those seeking to stamp out freedom.
Please take care of yourself and be alert to situations that could get you hurt, since some of those Zio-fanatics will do anything, including committing violent crimes, to shut down those who have the courage to think for themselves.
As a Zionist Israeli living within the recognized borders of Israel, I couldn’t give a rat’s arse about your gestures or opinions. You are perfectly entitled to do or say anything you please. For all the people warning you about the “violent crimes” that “Zio-fanatics” may wish to perpetrate against you for expressing an opinion, I would like to stand up and condemn any such action (not that I believe such action would ever occur). There is no excuse for attacking anyone based on their opinions.
Whether you accept it or not, you are trafficking in fairly old tropes of causing offence to millions of Jews who have no idea who you are and who have never tried to shut you down or interfere with your livelihood in any way. I can never understand why someone would choose to follow a path of giving offence even when they have been on the receiving end of something similar. I guess having been bullied you take no responsibility for the discomfort you cause others. It’s not an uncommon response, but it’s not a terribly evolved one either.
Finally, and again whether you accept it or not, you are allowing your name and your brand to become associated with pretty widely accepted Jew-haters – Ernst Zundel, Dieudonne, Gilad Atzmon (mentioned in a comment above). I have no particular interest in debating with you whether or not these people have an irrational antipathy towards Jewish people as their records speak for themselves. They generalize about Jews. They show disdain for Judaism. They are Jew haters. If you talk to them, they would not deny it.
I have no issue with anyone being an anti-Zionist. Though I am a proud Zionist (I find that the word doesn’t always mean what anti-Zionists claim it means), I stand opposed to my current government and have consistently voted to end the Occupation and negotiate a just solution for the Palestinians. If you are an anti-Zionist, you should be able to express any view you want in any forum. But if, like the people mentioned above, you have an irrational antipathy towards all Jews, then you will evaporate into history having achieved nothing positive in life just like all the silly, irrelevant racists of the past.
Good luck with your show in Edinburgh. I hope you will use your platform to send positivity out into the world rather than the weak reflections of age-old hate that you seem to be emanating right now. Cheers.
First off, you say you ‘couldn’t give a rat’s arse’ about my opinions yet here you are posting a long comment. To me, that’s a sign of incoherence.
I strongly disagree with both the above points. The ‘Quenelle’ is a comic arm gesture invented by a French comedian of African origin. Dieudonné is France’s most successful comedian. Are the millions who watch his videos and see his shows also guilty of an ‘offense’ ?
If Daniel had actually bothered to read my blog post, he would also know that Zionists have been trying to destroy my career via a pernicious online smear campaign for the past two years. One of them Ambrosine Yolanda Shitrit is currently visiting family in Israel and is still smearing me despite receiving a recorded-delivery police-worded letter. Maybe she’s the person you should be tackling with your concerns ?
Most of my other abusers are not Jewish, yet all are supporters of ultra-nationalist Zionists.
My Quenelle was clearly directed at my abusers. It’s a big ‘fuck you’ to them and their constant faux whining about ‘antisemitism’. Modern Zionism is a plight on Judaism: Shitrit is a prime example of this and brings shame on herself as well as on Israel.
have no knowledge of your music but for your politics re usrael;
thankyou thankyou thankyou!
Moshe Sevitt – You reminds of Professor Daniel Bar-Tal’s (Tel Aviv University) 2010 study in which he concluded that most Israeli Jews prefer to live in ‘self-denial’.
For your information – Israel is the only UN member entity which has no internally recognized borders. Furthermore, Israel has no written Constitution, unless you agree with late professor Israel Shahak that world most hateful religious book, Talmud guides the Israeli Jews.
The Talmud is a hateful religious book. The Torah god is a hateful, vengeful, jealous god and the Hebrew Jews are his followers of this psychopath.
Daniel. You seem to be a reasonable chap. Unusual in an avowed Zionist. Are you really?
Do you support the right of return of Palestinians (or their descendants) to the land and property they owned prior to the ethnic cleansing of 1948 and 1967?
Firstly, thanks for getting my name right, something that careful readers like Ms. Chabloz and Rehmat1 seemed unable or unwilling to do.
I believe that the right of return for “Palestinians (or their descendants)” should and will be one of the issues negotiated in a final settlement between the Israeli and Palestinian leadership. I would, of course, support whatever solution was agreed to by both sides.
In my opinion, I think monetary compensation will turn out to be the better solution for most families, but that will not be my decision to take.
What happened to the jubilee’s?
??? 7year and 7×7(49) ???
No more debt?
Do you support the right of return of the Arab and Iranian Jews to the land and property they owned prior to the ethnic cleansing of 1948 – 1979?
Do you support the reparations for the genocides perpetrated by UK in Africa, Asia, and Americas?
Even if they haven’t interfered with her way of life at all – should we all just sit by and allow crimes against humanity and a series of lies to go unquestioned on and on? Your letter has no sense to it. Maybe you should stick to protesting against the murder of innocent men women and children in Palestine by successive governments of your precious country. I too couldn’t give a rats arse over who she upsets if she is bravely bringing the truth out quite frankly.
“The truth fears no questions!”
Something history reminds us that you Zionists fear very much it seems.
You are using a gesture which has been widely used by antisemites in France. but I don’t think you are yourself anti-semitic. No, you are just following the crowd.
The millions who follow France’s most popular comic, Dieudonné, online; who buy tickets to his sell-out shows in France’s largest stadiums – are they ‘just following the crowd’ ? Because there’s a total mainstream media blackout when it comes to Dieudonné, did you know? The only time Dieudonné is cited on French TV is to further the smear campaign against him by ultra-nationalist Zionists.
Waving a ‘je suis Charlie’ banner back in January were you, Eva? Freedom of expression, you say?
Anti-Semitic = against – Jewish privilege. The term is not defined as hatred of Jews, it is defined as against the priority of the Jews.
I pity the jew, for years I was quite friendly and accommodating to Jews (in my ignorance of them) until I was “Jewed” out of my career by one and a few and since then I bless the day it happened and thank God for such a valuable lesson.
Jews pretend to be Gods chosen people (race) but they cannot fight or win against their true nature.
Read Isaiah 51:1
…….what rock were are the jews really hewn?
Europeans are the true Israelites (read the book of Jeremiah for clear as day explaination)….
Who do jews say they are….
It seems the Jews have built their house on quicksand.
Well done for sticking up for yourself against these bullies. I found this podcast that you may be interested in: http://www.redicecreations.com/radio3fourteen/2015/R314-150818.php
It’s an hour and a bit long, but a very good overview of the sorts of thing you’re questioning by somebody who has been at the forefront of anti-Zionism for many years.
All the best,
Bravo Alison!!! For standing up to the injustice. For standing up for your convictions of the heart.
Your noble and courageous actions will forever vibrate and be a shining example for eternity.
I am one of those inspired by your actions. Inspired to speak out in the face of injustice.
I’ll leave you with this:
“It is easy in the world to live after the world’s opinion; it is easy in solitude to live after our own; but the great man is he who in the midst of the crowd keeps with perfect sweetness the independence of solitude.” – Ralph Waldo Emerson
I’d never heard of you before, Alison, but, as an anti-Zionist, a supporter of a free Palestine and someone who studied the Third Reich in some detail as part of my degree, I followed a tweeted link with interest to find this blog post. I haven’t read any of your other posts or any of the blogs attacking you yet, nor have I seen any of the twitter campaign against you but, having read what you’ve written here from the paragraph beginning ‘Holocaust denial’ onwards, I can’t say I’m surprised any of it exists. (Please note, I’m not defending it – I can’t defend or criticise what I haven’t seen.)
The method of murder is not “under question” as you state. The evidence for the gas chambers is overwhelming and undeniable by anyone who looks at it with an open mind and without an agenda and the same goes for the number killed. Faurisson – a one-time professor of literature, not history nor science – did not conduct “in-depth intellectual and scientific research” and I strongly recommend you read more scholarly works by better qualified authors, such as, “The Case for Auschwitz: Evidence from the Irving Trial,” if you are really interested in “digging a little deeper”.
By the way, the commenter above, Trevor LaBonte, whom I’d also never heard of before, is staunchly anti-semitic, as revealed by a cursory glance at his twitter timeline and further confirmed by his blog. His comment here gives the lie to your assertion that “nobody denies that…millions died in camps”. His claim that, “the International Red Cross reported the total deaths, jewish and non-Jewish, to be 270,301,” is a lie and the International Committee of the Red Cross has stated so in no uncertain terms. In response to this and other propaganda which misrepresents the ICRC in the nazi cause, it issued a long statement in its Bulletin No. 25 (1.2.78): “The ICRC considers it must make clear the fact that it has never published – or even compiled – statistics of this kind which are being falsely attributed to it. The work of the ICRC is to help war victims, not to count them. In any case, how could its delegates have obtained data for such statistics? They were able to enter only a few concentration camps, and then only in the final days of the war.”
Finally, your comments about police obfuscation and Lord Janner are a non sequitur and have nothing to do with questioning “official versions” of history. This remark, perhaps more than any other, suggests some quite disturbing conspiratorial thinking on your part. Historical truth is arrived at by examining historical evidence and the Jewish holocaust is probably the best documented case of genocide in history.
Funnily enough – I too have studied the Holocaust and the facts surrounding it I wrote my history thesis on it. I think you are lying to yourself when you say it is undeniable – I am now a holocaust revisionist and am saying with all sincerity that It is hard to prove that 6 million were gassed and burnt as you suggest – In fact it is extremely difficult to prove it did happen – no bodies, the gas chambers shown would have taken untold years at full throttle to dispose of that many bodies let alone the so called ovens that weren’t even in an operational state with chimneys not even attached. Most deaths were from Typhoid, cholera and starvation also the Red cross report is a factual account. I suggest you watch the factual documentary ‘Hellstorm’ for info and actual footage on the real holocaust that took place after the war and was committed by the US on the remaining German soldiers and a by mix of Polish Jewish soldiers and Mongolian mercenaries on the German people. These atrocities outweigh any propaganda you may have been taught at your school or university by the victors who wrote these books. Yours is a typical example of someone taught and schooled in zionist written facts as I was until I did more research – not the real account from real survivors. All I can say is forget EVERYTHING you were told and go straight and read “Hitler – The untold story” and then you will be back on the road to the truth.
Maria – I am Sorry if you don’t like the truth as no one likes to be corrected – me least of all but I really hope you can overcome your prejudices and social pressure to delve even deeper than you have been allowed to and look into the real truth.
I am very interested to hear of what undeniable proof you could provide to prove the gassing and burning of 6,000,000 people as you willbe the first to do so – Maybe if you thought on you would realise that by making it Illegal to deny the so called holocaust that the real proof in the pudding is that rather
“The truth fears no questions” –
-wouldnt you agree? If you don’t then it is useless discussing any further and you are simply a zionist shill that has no interest in the truth and are simply trying to force a lie down your own throat as well as others that just wont fit – even when it does – it keeps getting brought up again like a badly repeating unsettling meal.
Good luck on the now beginning of your journey for the search for the real truth.
“The truth fears no questions” – kinda hard to take THAT seriously from someone using a fake image and a fake name.
Please send a link to your history thesis where you claim to have written on the Holocaust. What grade did you receive?
The reason I ask is because I don’t believe you attended university at all. You sound like a dull 80s throwback still waiting for David Irving to win on appeal.
Ned, do you hate Jews?
The truth fears no questions, so I’m sure you won’t mind answering mine. Wouldn’t you agree? If you don’t then it is useless discussing any further and you are simply a neo-Nazi shill that has no interest in the truth and are simply trying to force a lie down your own throat as well as others.
Well at least you discovered that the holo story is mostly b.s. You have been now truly educated instead of believing what the controllers have taught you to believe over the last 60 years.
It’s a well known jewish/zionist tactic to batter someone over the head with an antisemitsm accusation for the sole purpose of subjugating them, their voice and their freedom of expression.
The last thing the zios want is someone shining a light onto their crimes and their fabricated holocaust.
I say go ahead express yourself in the way you see fit. If they don’t like it, let them moan & whine.. it’s what they do best.
In any case, who the hell appointed them to decide on our behalf the meaning of that gesture?
The sickening “anti-Semitism” whining is nothing but blackmail. Billions of dollars have been collected world wide as “compensation” – for the HOLOCAUST INDUSTRY. Anyone who has not read Normal Finklestein’t book, should make it a priority to do so. The genuine victims of WWII got peanuts whilst the Holocaust Industry grew monstrously fat on the blackmail monies.
Just because belligerent/murderous/moronic America is totally ruled by the Zionists (see AIPAC, JINSA etc.etc.) the world is forced into kowtowing to the ridiculous notion, that “anti-Semitism” and holocaust “denying” is the eighth deadly sin. Why in heavens’ name would anyone give a toss whether he/she is labeled anti-Semitic? As for the holocaust cudgel, its mention puts me to sleep its so utterly boring. Hasn’t anyone heard of Vietnam, Cambodia, Iraq, Sudan / the list is endless /
where GENUINE GENOCIDE was committed by the vicious yanks? There is absolutely no proof about the “six million” Jews who supposedly perished, yet any questioning of this magical number is “verboten” by the Zio establishments worldwide. Are we all mice to allow Zionists to rule the world via puppet governments? Anyone who votes for the bought Zio slave politicians should have his/her head examined.
I was one of those vicious Yanks in Vietnam and Cambodia in the Army. ALL the Americans I knew were careful to avoid endangering civilians. You are reckless and uninformed when you throw around words like genocide the way you do.
Anyone should be able to question any aspect of the holocaust caused by the Germans. It’s a disgrace that those who do are hounded by Western governments. Nothing in the human experience is forbidden as a subject for study and debate. As Jefferson said, “Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it.” Suppressing legitimate speech is always a mistake and any words that doesn’t threaten immediate harm to anyone is legitimate. Hurt feelings is a pathetic, unworthy excuse to suppress speech.
Some Jews work very hard to keep the focus on “The Holocaust,” namely the experience of the Jews at the hands of Germans, but this unacceptable. Over 100 million people died in the last century at the hands of leftist fanatics (which term includes the National Socialists). It was no consolation to people about to receive a bullet in the back of the head that it was because they were a class enemy rather than a Jew. Those 100 million dead deserve more respect than the twisted debate we have now about why they died.
I think Eve is referring to the vile zionist scumbag Eisenhower’s genocide of the German people and soldiers after the second world war had ended by starvation in vast camps. If you need more info on this and would like to watch a very informative documentary on it watch Hellstorm. Its hows you actual footage of what the allies did after the war. Try Hitler the untold story fro the absolute truth with proof – not a few pieces of paper and films from Hollywood to form unquestionable proof in the sheeple publics minds.
Thanks, Mr. Kelly. I think I have a copy of “Hellstorm” but have not gotten to it yet. I’m very interested in the post-war treatment of Germans. The book “Other Losses” tells the story of horrific mistreatment of German POWs left out in the open in prison camps with the direct knowledge of Eisenhower. Also, the initial policy towards Germany itself was to keep its citizens on short rations until it became necessary to enlist Germany in the Cold War. The death of millions of ethnic Germans expelled from Eastern Europe was an avoidable catastrophe at best.
Here here Eve – I have just written a piece on this and didnt see your excellent paper until just after. very good.
Hi Alison. Keep up the terrific work. The fact that international Jewry has criminalized Holocaust skepticism speaks volumes. Truth needs no laws to protect it. Meanwhile, Zionists are destroying Palestine, ruining lives, advocating wars, and destabilizing much of the Middle East (using Washington). Such wonderful people!
The WWII deaths were huge from 50-80 million. So, why is this fictitious number of 6 mil Jews kept prominently in the world’s face every day? Money grubbing seems to come to mind, pure money grubbing, as the answer. As if “they” are the most important people on the planet? They certainly believe they are, the Jewish Supremacist theory, the “chosen” ones. Ugh.
Are any of the posters here familiar with the term “organized gang stalking” an its correlation with this exact dialogue?
Have your colleagues or co-workers suddenly acted strange to you; your pets gone missing, or things moved around in your house and yard? Strange internet stuff (in addition to bullying an mobbing, these people also target your connection at the switch, and tamper with your emails and so on. An much of that from Israel, which gets a virtual live feed of all of our conversation online, courtesy of your own security services.)
I think it would be wise or anyone who has been bullied by these people to realize that you are, in essence, adopting their arguments, and adopting their us-v-them mindset as well. Have europeans lost all touch with their own culture, so much so that they forget their druidic, humanist animist and pagan roots; o much so that they only fin power in arguing with zionist bullies and trolls?
Euro’s need o collectively join together and ignore these peoples factitious disorders, and tribal/biblical legalism.